I Have a Question
“When I drive down Route 28 on Monday, I see a lot of cars at your pantry. I see many people. I have some food pantry questions. Are they from our area?”
My answer: “Yes, they are from our area.”
But, that’s not the right question and it’s certainly not the right answer. The correct answer is that we serve everyone who manages to make it to our pantry…no matter where they’re from.
In our country now, in the U. S. of A., we have people who are hungry. Many of these people work. Many hold down 2-3 minimum wage jobs. Even with these jobs, their minimum wage pay checks don’t have any $$$ for food. So, they come to a pantry for food.
They come to the pantry they can get to…not the one in their neighborhood. And, the reason for that makes a lot of sense. If they live off Route 28 but work in Cairo on Monday, they’ll never make it to the Boiceville pantry on Monday before it closes.
When I worked in the Good Neighbor Food Pantry in Woodstock, there was a volunteer who didn’t agree with this philosophy. A hungry man from Shandaken got a ride into Woodstock and stood in line for food.
The volunteer denied him food. He went away hungry. He came to Woodstock for food because he didn’t have a car and his ride brought him to Woodstock.
Pantries serve the people who can make it to their pantry. At Reservoir Food Pantry we also serve food to home bound households where the residents are transportation challenged.
It’s not where the hungry live that determines what pantry they use. It’s what pantry they can get to.
Food pantries and soup kitchens are our tax dollars at work. The government has decided the hungry should not starve to death. The government has chosen food pantries, soup kitchens, shelters, and halfway houses as places for the hungry to get food.
We don’t ask the address of any of the hungry in our line. Nor do we care.
Our job is plain and simple: to feed the hungry.
For the most part, the food that we serve is food that was destined for the landfill. Most pantry volunteers are just that…unpaid workers concerned about our neighbors, relatives, friends who are not getting enough to eat.
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Round 2 in the Food Pantry World – Food, Sex, and Money
ARE YOU OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER HOW WE ACTED IN HIGH SCHOOL? Everyone in class knew the which students were acting right, following the rules, and those who were not. There was no privacy, really, and no secrets.
WELL, GUESS WHAT. The same mentality exists in food pantries. Everyone knows which pantries play by the rules and which ones don’t. There are no secrets.
FOR ONE THING, THE SHOPPERS CAN TELL BY WHAT KIND OF FOOD THEY’RE GETTING. Is the food on pantry day composed of bent cans, stale bread trimmed in green, and frozen food which has obviously been refrozen more than twice? If the answer to that question is “yes”, then it’s pretty obvious someone besides the shoppers is getting the fabulous produce, the wonderfully fresh Bread Alone Bread, and the quick frozen meats and veggies. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the volunteers are taking it all for themselves and their neighbors.
PANTRIES COME EQUIPPED WITH GUIDELINES, AND RULES SIGNED OFF BY EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND COORDINATORS. The rules are clear.
PANTRIES COME EQUIPPED WITH COORDINATORS WHO ARE TAUGHT THE RULES . These coordinators are trained by, supervised by, and evaluated by the Food Bank. Boards,
Church Committees, and volunteers are often surprised to learn that Food Bank supervisors do expect certain levels of performance from coordinators.
Until now, the Food Bank was quiet about what was happening. Well, that attitude has changed.
IF YOU WORK IN A PANTRY THAT FORGOT THE RULES, or if you know about about a pantry with volunteers who forgot the rules, be prepared to expect a surprise or two in the coming months.
THE FOOD BANK HAS RULES. The rules have teeth. The Food Bank is no longer interested in keeping secrets. After all, our court system is pretty open. Misdemeanors and felonies are part of the public record.
Over the past few months, the Food Bank has terminated a few agency memberships. Why?
Volunteers:
sold Food Bank products for their own profit.
kept food for themselves or gave it to family and friends or other volunteers.
used products for unapproved activities.
forgot there are health standards and that pantries and pantry storerooms should be kept clean.
THANK YOU FOOD BANK. Those of us working in honest pantries have hoped this would happen. Personally, I feel that there are very few pantries operated by people who make up their rules as they go along and have no respect for the Food Bank. These people are, however, ruining the whole scene for all of us.
If you shop at or volunteer at a pantry where the rules are not followed, please call 1-518-786-3691 and report the issue.
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I’m not Focused on Poverty
Poverty.
The subject is
huge.
intimidating.
scary.
To tackle poverty in this country is almost an impossible task.
Ronald Reagan said “We fought a war against poverty and poverty won.”
How a country as rich as ours can have so many hungry people is an embarrassment, a scandal. How can we let this happen?
How can we go about our lives every day just ignoring the millions of poor and destitute people?
How can we simply watch a new class, the struggling class, spring up and pretend it isn’t happening?
I’ve explored these questions for some time now and have finally come to the conclusion that I don’t have the answers.
This is the same question I ask when I explore the question of how the Nazis were allowed to slaughter so many Jews in the 30’s. I don’t know how this happened either.
However, there is one thing that I do know. I know that it is within my power to feed people and I can write about it.
I can’t find nonexistent jobs for them. I can’t get $$$ for their healthcare. I can’t get $$$ for the exorbitant rental prices they endure.
What I can do is offer soups, fresh veggies and fruits every Monday afternoon at 2:00 and I can tell the world on my blog.
For now, because that’s all I can do, I have to be satisfied with this.
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Awaken The Connection
PANTRIES CAN BE POWERFUL PLACES. Everyone coming to a pantry needs healing of one kind or another. People come to pantries for just that healing.
The Reservoir Food Pantry offers an opportunity for all of us to find a place of connection and wholeness within ourselves.
This connections makes us aware that what we think and do matters, that our feelings and intentions are important, and that we are not alone or separate. We are not above or below others.
THESE REALIZATIONS CAN BE INCREDIBLY POWERFUL. Once we become more aware, we feel more responsible for our inner growth and for all life around us.
Feeding people and allowing others to feed us makes us know that we are all one huge family on this planet. Knowing this concept can wake up the world.
JOIN US. Work in the pantry, shop in the pantry. Participation in the pantry will allow you to experience deeply your connection to all living beings.
YOUR COMMITMENT TO A PANTRY WILL ALLOW YOU TO JOURNEY DOWN A PATH WHERE WE CAN ALL BE ONE AND DEEPER COMMUNICATION IS A REALITY.
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Do you work at a pantry? Do you shop at a pantry? Do you donate to a pantry? – Part 2
“Can I offer you some of this delicious celery? I noticed you just walked past it.”
“THANKS, BUT I CAN’T CHEW IT. I WISH I COULD.
A big challenge in the food pantry system is getting the food to the people that they can eat. Many things come into play here:
Dietary preferences
Health conditions
Religious guidelines
One challenge hardly ever mentioned is whether or not a person has teeth.
Once the teeth are gone, many foods are just not edible for a person. Take for example a simple food like bread. Our pantry has always been proud to serve Bread Alone Bread. Unfortunately, toothless people have trouble eating it. It’s not soft enough.
There are many fruits and vegetables which a toothless person cannot eat:
celery
radishes
apples
Pantries offering client choice make life easier for both the pantry and the shopper because people take what they can use.
Another consideration in choosing food for pantry shelves is the homeless person. The homeless person’s kitchen is in his/her shirt pocket so the selection is limited to
peanut butter
protein bars
cheese
carrot sticks.
Foods for the homeless include items
which can be eaten raw,
which don’t need either refrigeration or cooking,
which can be easily carried from place to place.
Once a person becomes homeless, s/he more or less automatically becomes hungry. For many homeless, eating is a challenge repeated at every meal. Some food pantries knowingly or unknowingly are not homeless friendly because
of the bureaucracy of the paperwork (How does one prove which bridge s/he lives under?),
of the lack of foods on the shelves acceptable to the homeless,
and because pantry coordinators, church boards, feel that food pantries are inappropriate for homeless people.
Whenever I ponder the obstacles to offering proper food to pantry shoppers, I find myself asking questions:
Why can’t:
food stamps be more generous?
wages be higher?
gas be cheaper?
rent be realistic?
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But…are they hungry enough?
The “Are They Hungry Enough” issue looms large in food pantry conflicts. The fears boil down to this:
People are going to shop at the pantry when they actually have the $$$ to go to the grocery store.
Riffraff are going to take the pantry food and sell it.
These people wouldn’t need to come here if they managed their $$$ better.
VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WE JUST GIVE THE FOOD AWAY…NO STRINGS ATTACHED. The unspoken text is that the hungry, the struggling class, individually and as a group should be punished for being the downtrodden.
Sometimes when I try to sort the issues out in my head, I remember the chicken yard my grandmother had during World War II. Occasionally, when a chicken would become sick, the other chickens would begin to peck at it. If the chicken didn’t get well, it would be pecked to death.
WHEN WE ATTACK THE HUNGRY FOR NEEDING THE PANTRY, WE’RE LIKE THE CHICKENS PECKING THE WEAKEST ONE TO DEATH.
I welcome all shoppers. They don’t have to be destitute although I see many destitute people nowadays.
Pantry shoppers routinely endure:
long lines
uncomfortable waiting conditions
lack of choice
WAITS OUTSIDE PANTRIES ARE USUALLY AN HOUR OR LONGER. At the Reservoir Food Pantry, we advertise our hours as 2:00 to 5:30. The doors actually open a little after 1:00 to a long line of people already waiting.
Shoppers wait outside the tiny pantry whether it’s raining, snowing, or if there are broiling summer temperatures. There is no shade outside our pantry…no protection from the elements.
They wait in this line for access to about 30 different food products. Compare that to a trip to a super market with 10,000 or so items to choose from.
THE PANTRY EXPERIENCE IS THE END OF THE ROAD. People are out of $$$ and need something to eat. period.
And, finally, if I ever could take the attitude that hungry people must have done something wrong and don’t need that kind of food…I remember the first time I naively asked a child in line about Christmas.
SANTA DOESN’T COME TO FAMILIES THAT STAND IN A PANTRY LINE.
THAT IS PUNISHMENT ENOUGH.
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Charity
You won’t hear statements like these at our food pantry:
“No one coming to our pantry gets food unless I know they really need it. I go to their house and check.”
“We make everyone show ID. We need proof of address, proof of your children.”
“We make everyone show their Social Security card at our pantry.”
FOR ME, THE VERY WORD “CHARITY” IS CREEPY. I’m not in a charitable business. I’m in the business of feeding hungry people food diverted from a landfill.
I love to multi-task and, as a pantry coordinator, I’m really in my element. The pantry I manage feeds all manner of people a 3-day-supply of food. This is delicious, nutritious food, much of which is organic.
Farmers, grocers, food manufacturers, share what they cannot sell. As I distribute all this food – left over because it’s the wrong shape, wrong size, maybe the wrong color – they get a tax break.
Personally, I love the idea that landfills are not getting larger so quickly, that fewer dumpsters and composters are being used. And, at the same time…sick people, old people, unemployed people, homeless people, are not going hungry.
FOR ME, HUNGER IS OBSCENE.
At the Reservoir Food Pantry, we have the least possible eligibility requirements. People coming to our pantry sign their name and check off the number of household residents. That’s it.
(When I had been a coordinator only a few months, someone complained loudly and a fancy USDA inspector drove down from Albany for the express purpose of taking me to the woodshed. That didn’t happen. He approved of the pantry. He carefully explained to me what’s necessary for our sign-in procedures. I’ve followed them ever since.)
Basically, if they’re hungry, we give them the food. Anyone willing to stand in line an hour for food can’t be all that rich.
PANTRIES OFFERING CHARITY HAVE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT APPROACH. Once we get into charity, we make the shopper feel:
humiliation
shame
inadequate
powerless
desperate
wounded.
When charity and outreach become a part of the feeding, food workers become possessive of the food. The big question then becomes: “Are you worthy?”
Charity brokers forget the food is not owned by the coordinators, churches, volunteers, board members. It has been entrusted to us to distribute.
OUR JOB IS TO GIVE IT AWAY. At the Reservoir Food Pantry, we understand this concept. We offer, whenever possible, a service preserving dignity.
In our great nation, there is no excuse for anyone to go hungry because our country is oversupplied with food.
When we feed the hungry, we strengthen the entire community.
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There’s all this Food out There
“While you’re making your way around the room, take what you need of the fresh produce, breads and bakery items. We’ve got potatoes here and carrots, onions, peppers, spinach, salad mix. Take what you can eat in 3 days.
“IS THIS YOUR FIRST VISIT? Welcome! We hope you’ll come every week. That’s how you get the best deals. Come on in. Go around the pantry in a clockwise direction. Begin here with a bottle of water. Now, as you go around the room, can you use a box of cereal? How about a jar of peanut butter? We have some jelly today. Take a jar of mayonnaise, too.”
I was speaking with a new shopper, a young woman who had just come in the door. She was on the verge of tears. I learned the best way to handle this situation was to cheerfully guide her through the room. When a person cried, I treated the event as though everything was normal. And, it was normal to see people crying in the pantry occasionally. If they asked for a tissue, I gave them one. Other than that, I ignored the tears.
“No thanks. I have a jar of mayonnaise at home now. My kitchen is almost totally empty because my husband hasn’t worked in 7 months. I’m completely out of food. But I do have some mayonnaise.”
“Take it anyway. You never know when we’ll get more in.” Back on this wall is the USDA section. Take a can of each type of vegetable or fruit for each person in your household. That means you can take cans of vegetarian beans, refried beans, green beans, corn, peaches, and tomato sauce. How many people are in your household? “There’s me, my husband and our 2 daughters. They’re in elementary school.”
MONTHS LATER HER STORY REVEALED ITSELF. Her husband, badly injured in an accident, may never work again. They sold a piece of land for money to live on. One child has diabetes. Here was a woman struggling against all obstacles to do the best she can to raise her children properly.
I’M ALWAYS PROUD TO CARRY USDA PRODUCTS IN THE PANTRY. When a person’s kitchen is totally empty, it’s a godsend to be able to take several cans of different foods to put on the shelves at home. Our tax dollars are at work here.
Let’s consider the United States Department of Agriculture for a moment. As our country accumulates agricultural surpluses, the food is distributed to those in need. I always get the feeling that our government is embarrassed by this food.
A much better, more mature, more realistic attitude is to realize (understand) it’s impossible to produce only the food we need. It’s better to have too much food than too little.
Droughts and floods work on their own schedules and weather is very difficult to control.
CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE: FOOD SHORTAGES.
SURPLUS FOOD HAS A DEFINITE PLACE IN OUR COUNTRY:
Diverting food from landfills offers communities an opportunity to feed people who don’t have any money after paying for housing and transportation to work.
Diverting food from landfills offers communities an opportunity to improve our environment.
Diverting food from landfills offers communities an opportunity to ensure that children do not go to school hungry. This is a major investment in the future because children have a difficult time learning on an empty stomach.
NO ONE IN OUR GREAT NATION SHOULD GO HUNGRY.
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“Can I volunteer in your pantry tomorrow?”
“If you’ve seen one homeless person, you’ve seen one homeless person.” – Thurman Greco
“Can I volunteer in your pantry tomorrow? I know about food and can help you.” The man standing before me was short and sturdy, with a gray pony tail…a typical homeless person if I ever saw one. He wore secondhand store denim and had not one ounce of extra weight on him. His boots and backpack were in good condition but definitely not new.
HIS REQUEST REEKED OF HUMBLE. This man had humble down sooo well. Humble is important when a person is homeless and mentally together. The police hassle homeless people so they learn skills to stay out of jail.
A very lose friend of mine, Paul Schmeltzer, once explained two important skills a homeless person needs: the ability to be humble and the ability to remember names and dates flawlessly. Paul could tell me what corner of what city he sat on at 2:15 in the afternoon on the last Friday in August, 2010. “These skills are necessary for a homeless person because if s/he can’t be humble and remember details, then jail time is in the near future”.
For those homeless with mental health issues, details like humble, coherency, an exacting memory are extremely challenging.
But, back to the story.
CAN YOU WORK IN MY PANTRY TOMORROW? How did you know all my volunteers have prior commitments tomorrow? I got excited! I’ve fed over 100 people by myself before, many times. But, volunteers help. Help is help. My pay grade is the absolute lowest in town.
“SURE,’ I SAID. “Love to have you. When you say you know food, what do you have in mind?”
“I’m a vegan. I know about produce. I’ll prep all your fresh food tomorrow.”
Sure, whatever that means. “Great. I’ll see you tomorrow. By the way, my name is Thurman.”
“And, I’m Arlen. Pleased to meet you, Thurman.” With that we shook hands and off he went.
The next day, Arlen walked into the pantry just as I finished stuffing two van loads of fresh produce into the tiny room. Pretty well gone was humble. In its place was a person who obviously knows and loves good quality food. He went to work.
First, he hauled all the boxes of produce back outside the building to the sidewalk where most of the pantry shoppers would wait to get into the building. Then, he arranged the food. Just. So. He made a workstation for himself as he assembled a large, black, heavy duty plastic bag for the inedible produce. A box turned upside down became a prep center, and the produce was neatly placed around him.
Starting with the carrots, he picked up a bunch, carefully removed the tops, then arranged them for shoppers to select from.
He divided bananas into 3 groups: rotten bananas to be discarded, bananas to be used for cooking, and those fresh enough to eat raw. And so he continued until he had prepped, graded, and arranged every fruit and vegetable delivered to the pantry in the vans that day. Arlen examined every leaf, stem, item in every box. He discarded the trash, he arranged all edible fruits and vegetables in gorgeous stacks.
Shoppers in the pantry that afternoon went home (to wherever or whatever that was) with perfect produce: no yellow leaves, no soft spots, no bruises, no tops. Everything was ready to prepare…just as if it had been bought in Gracie Balducci’s or Whole Foods. WOW.
Once, during the pantry food distribution, I quickly went outside the building to check on Arlen…just to see how things were going. “Buenas tardes, Senora. Cual frutas necessitas hoy?”
What? I heard Spanish! Arlen was speaking with a shopper in her native tongue. By the end of the pantry day, he spoke with shoppers in English, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Haitian, Italian, Creole. Arlen was entertaining everyone.
I knew I was going to be taken to the woodshed for allowing the food distribution at the entrance to the building but it was such a gift to the shoppers to receive this beautiful food and to speak their native tongues that I figured early on that I would take the anger and press on.
AND, I DID AND IT WAS WORTH IT. Every bit of it! Months later, they still hadn’t gotten over Arlen’s visit.
Actually, it was visits.
From that point on, whenever Arlen came to town, he worked in the pantry. He made us all feel we were special because our pantry was vegetarian.
Each homeless person is a special personality and has a special situation which s/he deals with.
So, how is Arlen homeless? Well, he moves around a lot and has a selection of friends who host him when he’s in the area. When Arlen arrives, there’s always a flurry of activity because he participates in all the events. Arlen assembled tents and kept the grounds clean when we had our first pantry music festival. .
When Holly Post, his Woodstock hostess, put her house on the market to move to Rosendale, Arlen was upset. “Holly’s got her house on the market and we’re moving to Rosendale” he said with feeling. Wherever Holly goes, Arlen is going too. I’m sure that, although Arlen will miss Woodstock, he and Rosendale will love each other.
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Don’t go Away. I need to talk to you.
“WE ALL KNOW ANGER. We also know how it kills our inner peace. And while most of us like the idea of forgiveness, it often seems a difficult thing to practice, especially when the source of our hurt is up close and personal.” – Mike George
“Don’t go away. I need to talk to you” the man aid in an authoritative voice as he walked toward me in the basement hallway of the Woodstock Reformed Church.
As I heard his voice, the hair on my neck began to stand up. I had just walked out of the pantry room for a moment. Stocking shelves in the pantry, I was preparing for the hungry who would be shopping soon. I’d been putting USDA canned green beans on the third shelf down from the top of a unit by a window.
“GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. What can I do for you?”
“Well, for starters you can stop feeding all those people. Ever since you started working here, more and more people are standing in our halls. You’re feeding the unworthy hungry and I want it to stop. Right. Now.” he said with emphasis.
The man standing over me in the hall was fat, old, angry. His toes pointed outward…a sure sign to me he suffered from a backache. “I’m Ed Jabbs. I’m head of the building committee for this church and I want to see your files on the people who use this pantry.”
“I’m sorry sir. We don’t keep many files on our shoppers. We keep a journal where we record their names and number of people in each household. That’s all.”
WE’RE A PANTRY, NOT THE POLICE, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF.
“Well, you should. No one should be allowed in the pantry who isn’t on food stamps. You’re feeding people who shouldn’t be coming here to get this food. You’re feeding the unworthy hungry.”
“Just last week you gave food to a man who I know shouldn’t be fed. He’s a writer. He published a book a couple of years ago and he shouldn’t even be here. Writers make a lot of money. ”
I’d heard about Ed Jabbs. He was a story in Woodstock. He was head of the building committee, was not a pantry supporter, and was definitely not a Thurman Greco supporter. After all, I reported to the Food Bank, not him. “This man is definitely a threat to the pantry” was the thought going through my mind as he stood over me.
Forever a mystery, I had heard gossip: Some church members were afraid of him. He had once belonged to a church in Saugerties but left after some event when a few members there had had enough. He was reputed to drive an expensive car with Delaware plates, and lived in Saugerties.
Not a secret: He very definitely did not like the way the pantry in the church was being managed now.
And, he had grounds. Before 2008, the pantry served about 25 colorful characters on Thursday mornings and now with the economy in the tank, new hungry people showed up every week. Lines were getting longer and longer.
The Hunger Prevention Nutrition Assistance Program changed our nutritional guidelines to include fresh produce, 1% milk, and whole grain breads. Before the guidelines changed, shoppers got a jar of peanut butter, a box of cereal, a can of tuna fish and maybe a can of soup. Now, they received a 3-day-supply of food for everyone in the household. Fresh produce lined the walls of the pantry. Bread Alone sent over bread weekly and pet food was even available.
These changes brought not only hungry people but mountains of cardboard and, according to some church people, vermin. Some felt we were being overrun with vermin. No amount of reasoning convinced them of anything different. It didn’t matter one whit that there was not even one bug or mouse to be found in the pantry.
Meanwhile, here was this angry man staring at me and demanding to see files the State didn’t even require.
“Well, Mr. Jabbs, I can call the Food Bank and find out what files we need. However, the inspector was here only a few weeks ago, looked at all my paperwork and pronounced everything “excellent”. We’ve never done anything like this before. After all, we’re a food pantry…not the police.”
“Check into it NOW”! he said as he turned away, his toes still pointing outward. Mr. Jabbs turned and smiled at me then, displaying a mouthful of large yellow teeth.
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